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Post by Molo on Jan 8, 2023 5:36:09 GMT
Under cover of night was when he preferred to travel. Things were quieter, and there was less risk of running into strangers. Being here in this forest also helped to conceal the small, former Sanzin, for he could traverse between trees and shadows. Creeping quietly, for stealth and quickness were the only advantages his small frame provided. These were habits he’d needed to pick up early on, to avoid attracting too much attention from his former pack. To have time to hunt or scavenge, to survive.
Jet was still surprised that he’d not even met a single one of them since he’d left. Not that they cared much, probably - as they were likely too preoccupied with other things anyway. And so was he.
For he was following a trail, one that smelled of blood and death but also promised sustenance. An ever-present need, especially for a loner. When he came upon the deer carcass, or what remained of it, it appeared to be about half consumed. Stored away beneath a large tree as though placed there purposefully, perhaps.
A glance around the area didn’t reveal anything or anyone, though, and he couldn’t smell anything besides blood and death. It was a risk to approach and begin to feed off of it, but one he was willing to take.
--another random open. see if this misanthrope can have an honest interaction..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 10:10:06 GMT
How beautiful the forest appeared at night -- mysterious and deeply captivating, undoubtedly full of secrets. For centuries these trees stood, he imagined by the looks of them. What history had they seen? What do they know? Do they know at all? The thought brought a small smile to his face, as he paused to contemplate a nearby tree. He placed a paw upon its trunk, felt the gnarled bark beneath his calloused pads. Looking up, he felt small underneath its shadow. He held his gaze on its sprawling branches for a moment before lowering it. Did the tree feel his touch? Did it feel it then when his claws began digging into the bark? Nycteus pushed himself away, stepping back from the tree. It was a living being, that was born and grows and dies like any other, that takes water and nourishment from the Earth. Perhaps it breathes, too. He lingered for a few more moments, a breeze ruffling his wild mane. It carried with it the stench of death. He could not resist. He followed the scent. The smell of wolf down that way only fed his curiosity. The trail brought him to a small clearing, of which a great old tree was the centerpiece. Beneath it laid the ravaged corpse of an old doe, more bone and entrails than good meat. The wolf whose scent he'd picked up on the way had already gotten to it, gnawing for whatever scraps are left. The man was of diminutive stature and looked thin. Hungry, without a doubt. The undergrowth rustled as Nycteus emerged from the copse, casually approaching the stranger but maintaining a few yards of distance between them. "That kill's placement is suspicious, don't you think?" he said. "Looks as though someone put it here for later."Molo
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Post by Molo on Jan 19, 2023 6:45:21 GMT
--rating this post M for excessive swears just in case – you got a triggered and very angry Jet for which I apologize.
If you think these be fightin' words too I'm good with that - also pretty sure Nycteus could and would wipe the floor with him just based on size diff but if it is, please hmu with a message? if you can ^^
It was a sound he’d heard far too many damned times in his life. Familiar and ominous, something that elicited a deep-seated, rage the likes of which he hadn’t felt for a while. The parting of foliage, mixed with that of pawsteps moving this way, purposefully. Perhaps the only difference this time was that Jet had actually had a few minutes to pick from this find before it’d happened.
Immediately the former Sanzin paused and stood, swinging his body about to meet the incoming stranger. Except.. as was always customary of these things, this motherfucker outsized and outweighed Jethro by a substantial margin. Just like literally everyone he’d ever met did.
They always did. Bullshit. Could the fates or the universe not see fit to give him an equally sized potential opponent even once? Just so things could be on par?
Apparently fucking not. And where the hell was Arsa? The guy that’d promised to be there was gone now, too.
What was even more infuriating was how this giant so casually strode up. Like he knew he could crush Jet, and he was flaunting it. His comment too, while providing valuable insight, was just as irritating. Internally, he seethed even more but knew better than to let that emotion get the better of him. He had it under control, mostly.
”No shit. Do you think I’m fucking stupid?” Because it sure as hell sounded like it. Fuck you, he thought. Just fuck off and leave me alone. But that was wishful thinking, and almost never happened.
Next, he was sure the guy would be demanding he hand over what was left. Or maybe he’d just come and take it. In either case, Jet was aware of what the likely outcome would be. It’d already happened far too many times. His efforts to fight back had almost always been in vain, but that’d never stopped him trying.
It wasn’t going to here, either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 8:30:37 GMT
Nycteus picked up on it the moment he made his first step towards the stranger -- the tension in his muscles, the shift in the atmosphere, the way the man spun to look him in the face. That look in his eyes... they burned with a rage he kept contained, just barely. He snapped, his words harsh and unpleasant. Nycteus' expression was unchanged, save for a slight frown. "I would not make such an assumption about a stranger," he said. Perhaps the stranger didn't think about it, or perhaps he didn't care. Hungry wolves become impulsive when there is food lying out in the open. They get brought down to their basest natures, driven by animal instincts and desires. It was easy for details like this to slip one's mind. His gaze narrowed at the carcass before it passed over the stranger. By his defensive stance and defiant stare, he was willing to fight for this half-eaten doe. While he was small and in poor condition, Nycteus would not be one to underestimate him. A pelt that ruffled hid scars underneath. He'd been in his share of fights, and the smaller, scrappier ones tended to have the dirtiest tactics up their sleeves. "You can relax. I'm not interested in leftovers." Though Nycteus said this, he adjusted his own stance, ready in case the stranger lashed out. "I was making you aware that its rightful owner may come for it." And depending on who that rightful owner is, that could mean trouble for the stranger. Molo
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Post by Molo on Jan 20, 2023 15:55:57 GMT
The stranger didn’t move, didn’t really even flinch. That, too, was usually how it went, and it fed the fires of rage - from years of being beaten and tormented even more. Angry though he was, however, Jethro did not miss the other adjusting his stance into something.. defensive. Though he did not make a move, he only spoke.
He would not make such an assumption about a stranger, he said. The way this guy spoke sounded elegant, and refined, with not an ounce of emotion or vulgarity to it. For a moment, incredulity took precedence over anger, and his expression shifted slightly, from anger to bewilderment.
You can relax, the stranger spoke, and though he had to a degree, Jethro was not interested in doing so completely. The stranger continued by stating that he had been simply trying to make Jet aware that the rightful owner might come for what was left of this corpse. Except, that contradicted what he’d literally just said a moment ago. What the hell?
”Wait - if you felt the need to make me aware of that.. that means you must’ve thought I wasn’t aware of how suspicious this shit looks. Someone would have to be fucking stupid to not notice that - so by extension that means you would and did make such an assumption.” By his own words, it seemed the giant had admitted as much. How did he justify that? Because if it was just to be a battle of words he and the stranger engaged in, Jethro could do that too. It was perhaps the one arena he had an actual chance to compete in with almost anyone.
”While I appreciate your concern,” he continued somewhat mockingly because no, he really didn’t, ”now that you've warned me, and if you aren’t here for the leftovers, is there anything else you want?”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 6:14:40 GMT
Immediately, Nycteus was met with an accusation, the man trying to argue with him about his intentions. Nycteus really did not care for his attitude, that much apparent in his cold stare and the furrow in his brow. He might have apologized, but the man did not deserve it. "Not stupid. Just impulsive and very hungry," he said. If the stranger wished to twist this into some other insinuation, so be it. People often hear what they want to hear. Perhaps he wanted to believe Nycteus was insulting his intelligence so he'd have an excuse to be offended and fight, or perhaps he was used to hearing it from everyone else. He said he was aware this looked like a cache, thus he was aware of what he was doing and the risks involved. "So you know, but you don't care," said Nycteus. That sardonic tone was rubbing him the wrong way, but he was more annoyed than angry. His silver stare fixed on the stranger, he calmly took a step closer. "I came for conversation. If I make a connection or learn something new, then it is a day well spent," he said. Looking directly into the stranger's golden eyes, he continued, "I wanted to ask: are you a native?"Molo
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Post by Molo on Jan 23, 2023 0:31:35 GMT
Not stupid the stranger said. Just impulsive and hungry. Jet’s brow furrowed momentarily as he thought it over. There was, or at least could be a difference between those two things, he supposed. But wasn’t being impulsive - or thinking without acting - just being reckless and foolish? Or put simply - stupid?
”That just sounds like a nicer way of saying stupid. To me.. anyway. But if it’s not what you meant.. then, whatever,” he offered, gentler now - perhaps the closest thing to an apology that would be extended for his temperamental outburst. Maybe this was just a difference of interpretation or opinion, in which case it would be stupid to continue trying to argue. Although Jethro would be damned if he relaxed and trusted this stranger completely, it sure as hell didn’t seem like the giant was after conflict, verbal or otherwise, so he was prepared to leave it at that. And, he supposed, after recent precedent with Arsa and Timber - not everyone was out to get him.
Jet chose to offer only a nod at the next statement. It’d been a calculated risk, and he didn’t care. Although now that most of his initial anger had abated, he supposed that did validate the giant, at least to a degree. Messing with someone else’s food, whether aware the risks or not, was a pretty dumb thing to do in its own way.
Somehow, all the other wanted was a conversation or to learn something new. Wanted to ask if Jet was a native. Things that once more utterly confused him, for with exception to the possible connections part - they seemed so pointless. ”I’m.. probably not someone who can help much.. with that. But yah.. I was born nearby, in a pack.. lives out that way. Not with 'em anymore though,” he offered, pointing with a tip of nose in the direction of Sanzin territory. A place he tried to stay as far away from as possible, now. But he wouldn't elaborate, unless the other wanted more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2023 9:30:31 GMT
His words seemed to bring the stranger to a pause, his eyes softer now but his brow furrowed in concentration, as though he was considering what Nycteus had said. When he spoke, the hostility in his voice evaporated away and it all ended with a concession. "No, it is not," said Nycteus, taking a seat now that the tension's lifted. "The most intelligent of men can act on impulse. We all do, at times, whether we are driven by need, desire, or blind faith. In some situations, impulsivity is an asset, when there is no time to think, but in others, it's best to hold back." Lest one be ruled by their urges. Restraint was something Nycteus knew very well. Too well, perhaps. At times he wished he could give in a moment and not think so much, but he hated to lose control. Perhaps there was a balance to strike, the right time to think and the right time to simply be and do. He caught that silent nod and pressed his lips together for a moment of consideration. Stealing was something he couldn't stand but ultimately he decided to not judge the stranger too harshly. He was a smaller wolf, alone and not in peak condition. Sometimes there were few other options. The stranger's words were slow and hesitant. He said he couldn't help much, but he was born here and knew the land, to a pack that lived not far from here. Nycteus' thoughtful gaze lingered in the direction he pointed, then his attention fell back to the shorter man. "Why did you leave?" he asked. Molo
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Post by Molo on Jan 24, 2023 15:26:46 GMT
No, it was not, the giant still tried to claim. Then he sat. Perhaps a calculated move, or maybe he felt just a little safer now. The gargantuan wolf went on to attempt to try to illustrate the point, as well as the differences between being stupid and just impulsive. Oddly enough, the former Sanzin found himself more intrigued than he might’ve thought, ears turned forth to catch everything spoken.
And while he wasn’t sure he agreed with all of it, he found himself offering another tentative nod anyway. ”I’m.. not sure I completely agree, but that makes a lot of sense.” Certainly the stranger had made a valid point. Though to him it still seemed like there were areas where impulsivity intersected with just plain old stupidity, it did not appear the giant agreed. Which was fine, if he did not. At least they had a slightly better idea of where each of them stood now.
While it wasn’t much, speaking and learning about these things was far preferable to getting his ass kicked. So there was also that.
The enormous stranger only posed one more simple question in response to what Jet had told him, and in response the former Sanzin stepped to the side a bit, to display his left side, along with the various old wounds which could be seen dotting his coat all the way from his muzzle to hips if the other looked closely enough.
”Cause they’re fuckin' jerks. Who hurt and torment anyone they can, just because they can,” he admitted, finding it was almost impossible to keep anger from flooding back into his words at that. He hated them, everything they'd ever done - anyone like them.. Jethro allowed himself a moment for the feeling to diminish again, a process which was helped along by a couple of deep breaths, so he could continue without the emotion. ” I was the lowest of the low, had no chance there. Would’ve been killed sooner or later. Nearly was, not too long ago. Decided to get the hell outta there after that.”
With the second half of the admission, he thought back to Arsa once more. What’d ever become of him - what was he doing now?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2023 19:15:28 GMT
The stranger was listening more attentively than anticipated, judging by the perk of his ears. Nycteus was pleased to see it -- his patience had worked to smooth over what could have easily escalated terribly. He didn't come for a fight, and if his intuition served him, his counterpart did not really want one either. The smaller wolf nodded in understanding, said it made sense but that he didn't entirely agree with what Nycteus was saying. To this, Nycteus tilted his head and prompted him to elaborate, "Why don't you agree?"The stranger turned to expose his left side, putting on display a myriad of old wounds. No part of him was left unmarred. They tormented him, he said, burning with fury once again, just because they could. He was of low rank, likely smaller and weaker than the others. Fair game for those looking to satisfy their sadistic urges. "Would’ve been killed sooner or later. Nearly was, not too long ago. Decided to get the hell outta there after that,” he said. "I don't blame you," said Nycteus with narrowed eyes and a frown. "I find it senseless, for packs to keep a caste of wolves valued so little the others are free to mangle them as they please, or even kill them with little consequence. It's an egregious waste. Each wolf has something offer, so long as they are given room to grow and flourish." Besides being wasteful, it was terrible for morale and the people's sense of unity and allegiance to one another. It was no wonder the other man left. No one would stay beholden to a community that does values them less than the dirt beneath one's feet. "It is good you found the strength to leave. Your life is yours to do with as you wish. They were only holding you back from living it to the fullest," he said. Molo
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Post by Molo on Jan 26, 2023 6:17:50 GMT
Then, something else the stranger said once more elicited surprise. Why didn’t he agree, the other asked. Jethro couldn’t recall very many times anyone had asked his opinion on something where they seemed to be genuinely interested. It took his mind more than a few moments to process that and then to begin to formulate an answer.
”Well.. kinda what I said before. Impulsive just sounds like it is.. or, could be,” Jethro corrected himself, given what he’d heard from the other, ”just a nicer way of saying stupid, in some situations. If being impulsive is acting without thinkin’ something through, for whatever reason, it seems like.. there could be an instance where someone could be both? Cause isn’t stupid also someone acting or speaking without thinkin’ much?” It was hardly the most eloquent explanation, but hopefully it would make sense. Enough for the stranger to have an idea of what he was getting at, anyway.
It also seemed like this giant had more in common with Arsa and Timber than he had with the Sanzin. And little by little, Jethro found himself growing more comfortable in his presence. The stranger’s opinion on the Sanzin’s morality and actions was intriguing, but ultimately again, just an opinion.
”They’d.. probably disagree. If havin’ someone around to torment, use as target practice, or boss around makes ‘em feel good, or helps ‘em build skills, earn ranks and get outta work, that’s how they justify it.” But there was also that talk of everyone have something to offer. Living life to the fullest? That only brought about even more confusion.
”What.. does that even mean? Maybe I’m free from them, but.. I don’t have any purpose, nothin’ of any real value to offer anyone. World wouldn’t be losin’ out on much if I weren’t here. Some might say it’d be for the better, even..” he mused. Perhaps even Jet himself was among them. As twisted as it seemed, at least there, with the Sanzin, he’d known his place. He’d been valued for something. Out here, though? It was all just.. nothing. Eat, drink, find shelter, sleep. Then repeat it all the next day.
Aside from instinct, or impulse, as the stranger termed it - part of him wondered why he even persisted in that struggle, when life itself seemed so utterly pointless. Wouldn’t it be easier and far less complicated, in a plethora of ways, just to end it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2023 15:49:59 GMT
The other man was not very articulate in explaining his point of view, perhaps he wasn't expecting to be invited to do so, but Nycteus listened patiently still. He nodded at the suggestion someone could be both impulsive and stupid, then to that final question, he said, "This is true, there is overlap. On the outside, these things can look very similar. One can say and do idiotic things when they do not think first, but not thinking first does not inherently make you an idiot. Sometimes it simply means you're acting in the heat of the moment." There were many factors that went into it: emotions running high, environmental pressures... it wasn't always an empty-headedness, even if this impulsivity led to careless mistakes. Unsurprisingly, the man's natal pack wouldn't agree with the sentiments Nycteus had expressed. The countless scars marring his pelt were proof of that. "I see. I'm not impressed," said Nycteus. "When I see a wolf degrading another to make himself feel superior, all I see is a weak ego." They are proving nothing by terrorizing the disadvantaged wolves of their group. ”What.. does that even mean? Maybe I’m free from them, but.. I don’t have any purpose, nothin’ of any real value to offer anyone. World wouldn’t be losin’ out on much if I weren’t here. Some might say it’d be for the better, even..” said the other man, sounding as though he was thinking out loud towards the end. Something he perhaps did not mean to say. Nycteus did not like to hear such things, when people pity themselves and talk about how the world would be better off without them. "Your purpose is what you make it," he said. "I, too, could die now and it would be of little consequence. Even for those with families and status, the world will always go on after they pass. This doesn't mean our lives are worth any less. We are wolves still and that has intrinsic value." It did not matter who an individual was, where they were from, their class, or skillset. These were all superficial things that did not determine a person's worth. "You are capable of becoming stronger, smarter, more experienced. You can find a new purpose, a new place in this world. Until then, enjoy what it has to offer," said Nycteus. Molo
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Post by Molo on Jan 31, 2023 17:10:02 GMT
The other man did agree that there could be times when the two things overlapped. And it also seemed that there was more agreement than Jet had initially thought between them on the rest of it, too. Just because someone might say or do things that could be described as stupid, or idiotic, didn’t necessarily make them a complete moron.
”So, like me… messing with this kill, it might be a dumb thing to do. But it doesn’t make me stupid overall,” he spoke aloud, a half observation and half question for the sake of his own clarity and understanding. ”Speakin’ of.. we probably ought to get the hell away from it.. before too long.” Because sitting here having a conversation only increased the chances that the rightful owner would be alerted or come along, and Jet didn’t necessarily want his company dragged into that. So far he actually seemed like a decent fellow.
I’m not impressed, the giant spoke next. What came after had Jet nodding along, the most enthused he’d been yet. ”We completely agree on somethin’. Weak ego and cowardice. Specially when you’re targetin’ someone weaker, and then they still have to outnumber him anyway..” he trailed off there. It’d never been fair - not one damn time. His tormentors had always had friends waiting to jump in and help if it’d even looked like he’d get the upper paw..
But the whole talk of purpose, or lives having some sort of inherent value.. remained confusing. The idea of improvement was a logical one, but he still didn’t quite know what to make of the rest of it. It was a different view, from an entirely different background, Jethro knew this. But it was hard to accept and even harder to believe that portion could be true. At least for himself, he wouldn't speak for others.
”But if I’m gonna die someday anyway.. and nobody’s gonna know or care, the hell’s the point of doin’ anything - wouldn’t it be easier just to end it? All I’ve known is survival, just makin’ it to the next day. How am I supposed to find enjoyment.. in that?” He questioned, curious, and almost desperate for some kind of answer.
It sounded, perhaps, like the other was taking pity on him and that wasn’t what he’d meant for. He didn’t pity himself or want that sentiment from anyone else. But, if there really was more to life to be had than just surviving, as this stranger claimed, Jethro did want to know about that. But how did he go about trying to enjoy things when all he’d ever known was survival and hurt and betrayal?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 17:21:29 GMT
”So, like me… messing with this kill, it might be a dumb thing to do. But it doesn’t make me stupid overall,” the stranger mused, now understanding what Nycteus had been trying to explain. He nodded to these words, then the man suggested they get away from the carcass before anything happened.
"That would be for the best," said Nycteus. His eyes passed over the other man's figure and he thought back to when he first made his approach, how he only saw him get a few bites before their conversation began. No doubt he was still hungry. So Nycteus made a proposition, "How does a hunt sound? I'm beginning to work up an appetite."
The smaller wolf was quickly nodding along to what Nycteus had to say about his former packmates, seeming to feel vindicated by these words. He agreed fully. They were cowards with fragile egos and something to prove. "Specially when you’re targetin’ someone weaker, and then they still have to outnumber him anyway..."
And this helped them improve themselves and their standing, how? He wondered what went through the head of a leader who not only excused such behavior but approved and even rewarded it. He thought about it for a moment with narrowed eyes and a furrowed brow. Nycteus understood wanting to fight, to challenge himself and keep his skills sharp. He understood wanting to prove himself and his strength. Looking at the man before him, he would never have wanted to use him for these things. What would he accomplish by beating up someone like him? What would he prove?
Bringing an ally into it was even more pathetic. "If you ask me, they are the weaker ones," he said.
If there was something he understood about this man, it was that he was a survivor with greater resilience than he knew, who had the courage to stand up for himself and say that enough was enough. Nycteus remembered that fiery look in his eyes from before. He expected a fight, one he probably thought he wasn't going to win, and yet he still stood his ground.
”But if I’m gonna die someday anyway.. and nobody’s gonna know or care, the hell’s the point of doin’ anything - wouldn’t it be easier just to end it? All I’ve known is survival, just makin’ it to the next day. How am I supposed to find enjoyment.. in that?” the other man asked, his words laced with desperation.
Life without direction or a clear purpose could be so empty. Each bleak day bled into the next. There was nowhere to call home, no duties to his people or the ones he loved, no tasks that needed to be done. He knew it well himself, how lost he had been after escaping his imprisonment. It was a struggle, but falling into nihilism fixed nothing. "Life is hard and cruel and often too short, but there is much to learn from its trials, meaningful experiences to be had, and great pleasure to be found," said Nycteus. "If you've ever tasted a rich and fatty cut of meat, or watched the sunrise, or made love to a beautiful woman, you would understand. There are things that make our suffering worth it."
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Post by Molo on Feb 4, 2023 17:53:00 GMT
The initial, pithy response given by the giant in regard to the hunt elicited another rare wry grin from Jet, too. He didn’t do charity, the big guy said. He had teeth and was quick on his feet - that much was true. Whether the ability to pull his own weight part was, remained to be seen. He hadn’t much experience hunting with others, but one thing was for sure.
”Won’t know unless I try. So let’s find out,” he spoke with a nod of agreement towards the other. They could attempt a hunt. Try to snag something. And maybe he would indeed get to taste some finer parts of a deer tonight. Such things were only not in the cards if he believed it so, the other spoke, and then proposed the idea of him.. taking a chance, and initiating romance.
At that, he couldn’t suppress a chuckle. ”Me.. initiate? What, so I can get laughed at?” He questioned. His curiosity was genuine, though the inquiry was not without a note of self-deprecating humor. ”I mean.. what woman would pick me over someone like you, if presented the chance? You’re bigger, stronger, taller, smarter. Nobody’d want me when they can just go out and find someone better. And that’s literally any other dude.” Which wasn’t hard. Practically any other male would be an objectively better choice for that sort of thing. Some things like that definitely were not in the cards for him, no matter what he tried.
That much he knew to be true. Some wolves were more blessed in certain areas that others. And in his case it was almost nothing except for resilience and a stubborn refusal to quit.
But the man’s mention of a belief of circumstances and reasons for trials or suffering was still no less intriguing, and the former sanzin did find himself nodding in agreement to the push us forward and something to learn parts of his speech. ”Maybe. The things I’ve faced.. have taught me a lot. I’m sure there’s more I can learn.” Jet acknowledged.
Such as, finally, the name of the giant. Nycteus. ”Uh.. Jethro,” the former sanzin responded. In truth he’d have probably been content never knowing the name, but he did now. And admittedly the title did have him a little curious. ”Yours.. does it mean something?”
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